Texas A&M, Florida State, and the SEC

You may want to check yourself Stripes the Skins have three of those same (4) championships your thumping about.

riiiiight...Carolina can't even win their own division in the ACC

and VT not wanting to join the SEC has nothing to do with whether or not they'd be afraid of losing...Beamer, the AD, Greenberg, none of those guys have any say in if VT goes anyway...football wins and losses have as much bearing on their decision as flying unicorns and fairy dust do

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riiiiight...Carolina can't even win their own division in the ACC

and VT not wanting to join the SEC has nothing to do with whether or not they'd be afraid of losing...Beamer, the AD, Greenberg, none of those guys have any say in if VT goes anyway...football wins and losses have as much bearing on their decision as flying unicorns and fairy dust do

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Think $$$ not who is winning their divisions. UNC brings in way more national audience than VT as a whole. VT has football and doesn't really draw for anything else as far as ratings go. UNC of course is bball centric, but also has a top flight baseball program, and do to their alumni situation will draw throughout the US also. Like I said, though, its not going to happen because of Duke and others, and the SEC wont even bark up that tree because of it IMO.

And Beast, 4 titles? You talking about the Packers?

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he's a UT fan and hates VT, that's his only reasoning...

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Who the F*ck are you to speak for me?

Clemson would be perfect. They even cheat like an SEC school lol. Clemson is a sleeping giant. Great, great program. For whatever reason, they have been coached by absolute trash since Ford left. If they ever get that right, they will win, and win a lot.

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Who the F*ck are you to speak for me?

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So I was wrong? Yeahhhh, didn't think so...

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Just curious as to why you would rather have Clemson and A&M instead of VT? The last 10+ years VT has been a lot better program than either of them.

FWIW though I'm not a big fan of having more than 12 teams in a conference.

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10 yrs is right if they get maybe 10 more yrs of being a strong program and a larger fan base they would be a good thing for the SEC. Someone has already stated that the in state rivalries the other teams bring would be good for the SEC .

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So I was wrong?

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Correcting your post.

It takes a real man to admit when they are wrong. I see that you couldnt do it.

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riiiiight...Carolina can't even win their own division in the ACC

and VT not wanting to join the SEC has nothing to do with whether or not they'd be afraid of losing...Beamer, the AD, Greenberg, none of those guys have any say in if VT goes anyway...football wins and losses have as much bearing on their decision as flying unicorns and fairy dust do

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They better consult with UVa first, we learned years ago that VT can't stand on its own two feet when it comes to conference affiliation.